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Did someone say that the problem with Japan was all the Gaijin nerds here?

Oh, I dissagree. I think the real problem with Japan is all the arrogant, *F-word CENSORED* Americans living here.

I don't think many Americans realise just how much they're dissliked around the world these days. Probably because they're too ignorant and dumb to know or care about the rest of the world anyway. I must admit, of most of the Yanks that I've met, for all of their higher education, I've never met a dumber or more ignorant breed of people!

Even in a country like Japan which has hitherto been very American friendly, I'm noticing a sea change. mind you, when a pack of US servicemen gang rape a prepubescent Japanese girl (Okinawa, I think it was) you can understand why.

It's only now after the Arabs rammed a couple of planes into the WTO that the Americans are beginning to realise this, Duh.

Down here in Australia and NZ (that's south of the equator for all the Americans out there), Yank tourists are pretty much the but of most tourist jokes. The scary thing is (For Americans anyway) they're becomming more and more reviled around the world. Why do you think Canadian backpackers always sew Canadian flags onto their packs? So they're not misstaken for Seppos (I mean Americans).

I don't really care who this thread offends because a lot of people around the world are making less and less of a disstinction between the policies of the US government and US civilians.

I know I wouldn't want to be an American anymore.




Fed Up.

Dear Aussie Friend,

Your country supported our fight for freedom in Iraq. You are not representative of your country, just a malcontent.

I would further remind you, that if it were not for brave men, like my grandfather, who fought on the sands of Iwo Jima that you would be shining salaryman shoes

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Nic James- Nic@9 - Gives You a Fat Beat - 79.5FM Radioi
Nic@9 - The Fan Club

You know, as an American citizen it upsets me to know that especially over the course of the last decade the overall world opinion has increasingly become negative towards the U.S. and it's people. Sadly thouh, especially with the foreign policy (or lack thereof) lately, I can certainly see the "why" for this perception, and I can tell you when dealing with the general populance in the states that it seems like the status quo is ignorant, rude, and overbearing people in general that overconsume, feel entitled to anything they wish, etc, etc.

I will not make apologies for this though, because at the end of the day, no matter how much a person such as yourself may want to find the faults in the U.S., the fact remains that at present, the United States is the strongest economic, military, research, and educaitonal presence in the world. Generations of Americans have fought for a degree of freedom of thought/speech/action/choice that was unheard of at almost any time in the civilized world. American businesses fostered and cultivated a capitalist world market allowing many countries to prosper directly or indirectly to a standard of living that would have otherwise taken decades longer to reach. Medical, technical, and other research done in the U.S. has helped people all over the world in many ways, and has saved uncountable lives. Even when acting the agressor i combat issues, the U.S. makes more reparations and continued financial assistance to *defeated combatants* than almost any other nation would in some cases even be able to (and this includes to Vietnam, which was a country that effectively defeated the U.S. in conflict and now has more assistance from the U.S. than their own economy provides for themselves).

Unfortunatley though, the last generation or so of Americans has become complacent, lazy, and declined in education, worldliness, and common manners in general (on average). I agree this is a problem, and personally yes, there are times when I often feel sick to be associated with a country that is increasingly being regarded unfavorably. One thing I will not say though is that I do not want to be an American....because simply put, no ther place in the entire world offers the degree of freedom, the potential for prosperity, or many other quality of life issues that can be found in the U.S.

You can debate this all you want, but in the end, most of what I have said is hard to dispute. While the U.S. in general has problems, we (Americans) have a habit of turning things around and a lot of the fundamental pieces of our social structure revolve around a constant method of change, correction, and balance. If this mechanism falls apart completely while I am alive, then yes...I may not want to be an American, and will most likely try to either work for changes in the situation, or leave it altogether.

On a final note, maybe you need some perspective. You lump the American goverment and it's citizens all in one category. Let me assure you, most U.S. citizens don't know their governor's name, or anygoverment officials between the level of governor and Vicep President/President. When a group of terrorist destroyed the lives of thousands of people just going to work to make a point about how much they hated America, it certainly did cause a frenzy, and overall most Americans are still in the middle of it. I mean come on, in the WTC it wasn't just those evil greedy capitalistic "bad guy" Americans you seem to dislike so much...there were school's touring the building, secretaries, janitors, friends visiting people working there, people shopping or eating breakfast.......and they had to die for what? What did any of those people do directly to warrant the chaos, death, and destruction that occurred? And why do you blame them so much for that?

There are a lot of stereotypes about Australian men, many of them negative especially regarding how they treat women or men not seen with a level of machismo that is expected. In fact, there are many negative stereotypes about Australians, just as there are with Chinese, Columbians, French, etc, etc...more than likely the world over there are stereotype for every race, nationality, religon, etc, etc. Personally I chose not to judge you based on any type of stereotype or similar generality...which on a one-to-one comparison basis would seem to make me (the american) a bit more broad minded and tolerant than you (the Australian) appear to be in dealing with each other.


I apologize for the ramblin nature of this post, and any lack of coherency from point to point, but it's late, I'm tired, and that post just really, really annoyed the heck of me.

Fed Up is an Aussie Nerd that came to Japan because he was rejected by his sheep.

Hmmm, A very intelligent and eloquent response there by Blackox to a rather inflammatory message, followed by your standard Thelmaesque reply.

Fed Up, I feel your resentment. And I must admit you make some valid points.

Yes, we Indo-Europeans admit we did export criminals and other worthless scum to Australia and other unimportant satellite wastelands. Sad but true. Please don't hold a grudge against us, personally I believe your grandparents paid their debts to society.

And can you blame us for doing it? After all, where better to send our scum but a place even the 17th century Dutch thought too barren and worthless to settle?

Listen... I know it hurts, but really, you shouldn't waste too much time on the hating America tip. That's so yesterday. You're a trendy guy, and I hear Pokemon is coming back. Everybody's getting into it. Don't miss out!

Cheers,

diomedes71 from the NY subway

First of all Fed Up, it sounds like your the ignorant gaijin living here in Japan. Making generalization after generalization about Americans, please, you should check yourself before you try to judge others soley based on a nationality. The tone of this post not only signifies that you are jealous of Americans, but also you have an absence of logical thought in that pea-sized object in your head, that you call a brain.

You say, "I must admit, of most of the Yanks that I've met, for all of their higher education, I've never met a dumber or more ignorant breed of people!"
Take a look in the mirror fool, and then you will discover the most idiotic waste of space on this planet. You make a person with in IQ of 1 look like they are Einstein, so they don't get much more dense than that.

You say, Yank tourists are pretty much the but of most tourist jokes.
Yeah, I guess that's what the ignorant people of Australia and NZ do with their free time, make up all those, "hi, I'm back in kindergarden level jokes" about Americans. I sure couldn't hope for something more intelligible than that coming from a bottom feeder, such as yourself.

You say,
I don't really care who this thread offends because a lot of people around the world are making less and less of a disstinction between the policies of the US government and US civilians.

What you are saying is people like yourself are getting dumber by the minute? Telling the difference between the policies of the US government and it's citizens' is the easiest thing in the world to figure out. I guess thick headed ignoramuses like you would experience major difficulties in handling such a simple task.

Americans don't really have a problem with jealous people like you hating us, because that has been going on for years. However, we don't go around walking the streets of Japan thinking we're better than others here. We do care about people other than ourselves, so quit acting like all of us put ourselves on pedastools, because we don't do that sort of thing. Americans here in Japan have as much right as being here as anybody else does, so just get over it.

Lastly, You say,
I know I wouldn't want to be an American anymore

First of all, you aren't American, so even as much as you wish you were, you're not. You can hate on America as much as you want, but you no what, it's not going away. There are many Americans here in Japan, and if you don't like it, then go back to the hole where you crawled out of, because you are just a cochroach that is out wandering around, waiting to be crushed. When that happens, then maybe you will realize that it isn't America that is the problem here, it's you!!!!

Yeah I agree, most Americans are tossers, just look at the silly posts that twit 'Thelma' keeps submitting.

Here here.

From what I've read of these posts, if that arrogant idiot Thelma is an example of American womanhood, then remind me never to visit the states. Give me a European, Australian or even one of my own NZ women anyday!

Aussie girls rule!

Yep, the States are cranking out a lot of f'ed up women these days. Thelma-type attitude is becoming accepted, even encouraged among girls and women. No joke.

*F-word CENSORED* YOU "Fed up"
Only a jealous person would talk so much crap about Americans!!!!!!

Why are all these other countries so jealous of America?

That's why those stupid cocksuckers flew into the WTC
They are just trying to *F-word CENSORED* America up because they don't get the same rights and freedom in their piece of shit country!!!!!!
They are pissed off at our advancement, while their country is left in the hot sun and endless sand.

Stupid malodorous bitches!!!!!

Oooh baby, I just love it when you talk dirty.

I love discussions like this.

From my (British, but not representing the whole nation) understanding. The reason the US is disliked so much by most of the rest of the world is because the nation (and often its people) tend to believe they don't need to consider the rest of the planet.

The US disregard for the aims of the Kyoto agreement would be a prime example of the government's view. The conversation of a group of Americans in a restaurant (usually audible to the rest of the restaurant however large it is) is a good example of the people.

I'm not sure of the statistics but I did hear that the USA killed more Brits in the Gulf War than the Iraqis did! Maybe the military follows hte same principles of "shoot first and then see if the other guy has a head left to answer questions later" attitude that American police seem to favour.

Yeah, it's a scary thought to think that the most powerful nation in the world is also the dumbest.